Below are testimonials from just a few of our many happy clients.
Having Andy to hang out with for the day was nothing but AWESOME! He did such a great job and was fantastic company with it for the day. Making the day lots of fun and him being so organised made everything run so smoothly. Being able to capture the fun on film is very hard to do and Any did exactly that! The most perfect wedding pictures we could have asked for.- Lisa Wood (2 Apr 14)
Thank you so much Andy!
We couldn't have asked for a better day, it was absolutely perfect. We are so pleased we picked you as our photographer, the photos are fantastic.
Having the slideshow so quickly was brilliant. Everyone was so impressed. It played on repeat the next day with everyone crowding round to watch it over and over.
We also had messages from all over the world before we even got home from the wedding because the bridesmaids had sent the slideshow link to all our family and friends overseas. Very special to be able to include them that way.
You were a great guy to have around on the big day - calm, witty, and you take great photographs! Love your work!
- Andrew & Frith Eames
14 February 2014- Andrew & Frith Eames (26 Mar 14)
fantastic photos and great wedding- nana stinson (18 Mar 14)
Andy did a brilliant job, under not the easiest of conditions - almost all photos indoors because of Cyclone Lusi. He organised the group/family shots well so there wasn't a lot of hanging about and the quality of his pictures is great. - Daphne Sampson from UK (18 Mar 14)
Wow Andy - what truly amazing set of photographs!! You are very talented. I am pretty well known around the hospital so you are welcome to use my name or Les' (Snape) if you are talking with hospital people... Thank you for doing such a good job. Ruth- Dr Ruth Spearing (17 Mar 14)
congratulations on your wedding.Your phtot's are lovely, your Dad Andrew sent them for us to see xxx- Tom & Judi Jelinek (22 Feb 14)
As a Celebrant I get to work with many photographers. I love working with Andy. He gets on and does what he is required to do and lets me get on and do what I need to do. As a consequence he gets magical photos. Love, love, love them. Looking forward to working with you again soon Andy.- Julie Lassen (18 Feb 14)
Thank you so very much Andy for making our special day with Fritha and Andrew so memorable. The photo's we have seen so far are fantastic, you are a very talented artist. We can't wait to see the rest of their photo's.- Leonie and Dennis MacLachlan (16 Feb 14)
I found Andy very easy to work with, he made me feel so much at ease whilst he was doing his job. What an amazing job he did, I have only seen the slide show and that is amazing!! Top job! top guy!- Jo McKinley (4 Feb 14)
A truly beautiful wedding, perfect location and wonderful, entertaining evening. Thank you for including us in your special day, and love and best wishes for a long, happy life together. xox- Brigitte and Steve (2 Feb 14)
I was a Bridesmaid at a wedding that Andy was the photographer for recently and I just want to say what an amazing professional photographer - he really was amazing! We had lots of fun and thoroughly enjoyed the day. Andy was fun, amusing and put us all at ease. He even managed to get really nice photos of our not so super model faces!! Highly recommend. - Rachael (Bridesmaid) (23 Dec 13)
What beautiful photos, great job and terrific memories for Lisa and Brent to keep forever.- Dianne Johnson (7 Dec 13)
Well done Andy have waited up to see your gorgeous photos. What a very happy special day!!! It was a pleasure working with you again.
Love em - Emma Newman (6 Dec 13)
Beautiful photographs to treasure, andy you took advantage of the many weather conditions during the day and obtained some spectacular shots. You captured the event and feelings on the day perfectly. Will just keep replaying and replaying. Thankyou- jeanette and bryan murphy (1 Dec 13)
Thanks Andy, you helped make Courtney & Adrians day super special with your amazing photos. A great chilled out day- Cindy & Malcolm Dean (21 Sep 13)
Andy would be the best photographer we have seen so far, very fun to be at wedding with him, great with kids and very creative with the photos, would recommend to anyone that he is the best around
- John Crowe (22 Apr 13)
We really loved this Wedding. It was a true celebration of love and committment. Jasmine and John, you make a beautiful couple. We hope you enjoy a long and happy life together.
God bless you both.
- Judith and Paul Casey (23 Mar 13)
Very pleased with your services.
The photos we've seen here are fantastic.
Very special to be able to view them so soon.
Thanks so much for your photos and keeping everyone on time throughout the day.
We wish to highly recommend you. Thanks.- Sue Craw (17 Mar 13)
Andy was really fun and friendly. great pictures of the couple's big day.just beautiful!- Ruth (28 Feb 13)
I think the photographer did a wonderful job of taking such innovative photos, of course the bride being beautiful helped, with her lovely eyes, and fun attitude. Wonderful wedding, and a photographer who made the finished product special.- Aileen Davies (16 Feb 13)
Andy is very creative and with his sense of humour puts people at ease and produces some amazing photos- Deborah Long (27 Jan 13)
An amazing day perfectly captured. Not only is Andie Currie a talented and professional photographer who put together amazing shots of our wedding and guests, but he is an easy going and fun guy to work with which makes the wedding photos experience enjoyable for everyone. Many thanks,
Peter & Penny
Dec 2012- Peter Magrath (18 Dec 12)
Travis and I are so so happy with what Andy did for us on our wedding day, he captured the whole day beautifully and was great to be around - very discreet but social and fun at the same time. We couldn't recommend him highly enough! Thanks so much for creating some amazing images that we will look back on to remember our special day forever.- Amy Liddington (10 Dec 12)
It was a pleasure to work with Andy at the Marriage Ceremony for Karen & Marcus. The photos are amazing - and truly capture the joy and celebration of their day :)- Mary Mason - Registered Celebrant (3 Dec 12)
I was lucky enough to be asked by Laura and Josh to be their Celebrant for the day. Laura and Josh organised a fantastic day for themselves and Andy captured the day perfectly. Andy was very easy to work with and believe it or not despite all of the fantastic pictures, you didn't even know he was there! Great work Andy.
David- David Adams (23 Nov 12)
great shots in wonderful location. - paul laird (17 Nov 12)
Andy was amazing, he was so easy to be around and made everyone feel comfortable and relaxed on the day. He was invisible when he needed to be but was there to give us direction when it was needed. All of our friends and family were extremely impressed and we are all so impressed with the final images!- Laura Laird - Bride (13 Nov 12)
Andy was just such a lovely guy to have around on the day. Totally calm and so friendly, just a great wedding photographer!- Hannah Kennedy (12 Nov 12)
AMAZING Photos Andy, these are just fantastic, I am sure Nick and Jody will treasure these for years to come, your work is of such a high standard and I am so excited that you will be capturing our special day too! - Karen Spence (5 Nov 12)
Always a pleasure to work with you Andy, the photos are stunning as they always are! regards Mariessa waddington European make up artist and stylist!- mariessa waddington (4 Nov 12)
Wow! Amazing photos, couldn't have captured the day more perfectly. Wonderful being able to view a slideshow so soon after the wedding and I could not recommend this photographer any more highly. - Nikki Prins (4 Nov 12)
A stunning wedding to be a part of, and the photos are a testament to the day. Andy made us all laugh and have fun whilst photos were being taken. Great pics!- Anne (birdesmaid) (4 Nov 12)
I would just like to say AMAZING ! These photos are just superb, and really capture the moment as the day progressed. We will have some very special memories of our sons wedding day thanks to you Andy.- Marian Dench (4 Nov 12)
Andy would be the most professional photographer I have met. He gets the crowd involved and his shots are "simply the best" All the smiles are out when Andy is about.- Ross Francis (29 Oct 12)
Brilliant job Andy, you were magnificent on the day and the photos are great! Thanks for capturing our day and being so easy going.- Phillip & Melinda (8 Oct 12)
Andy, you caught the mood for the day perfectly. Theyt both look so happy.- Beverley Blanche (celebrant) (23 Sep 12)
Lovely photos great to watch - Kim mcdrury (22 Sep 12)
Had a fanastic day it run nice and smoothly the photo look great thank you so much for the great memories- Debbie and Dave (22 Sep 12)
We are completely enthralled by your wedding photos. You were so unobtrusive - shall definitely recommend you in the future.- Chris and Kevin Grant (2 Sep 12)
Further to our earlier comment. Andy is great to work with, made everyone feel so relaxed, even the extended family and friends pictures...
As well as the slideshow that was put up on the night of the wedding the final product is amazing. Candid unposed shots are taken brilliantly. And the personal service in regards to the final products is definately appreciated. Everyone who has seen them loves the books and photos we got. Definitely recommend Andy to anyone wanting great timeless photos. Thanks again Andy - Clayton and Sapphire (12 Jul 12)
the photos are wonderful Andy worked real hard taking some fantastic shots.thankyou so much- Donna Brydon (10 May 12)
If you’re lucky enough to secure Andy for your wedding photography, in our opinion, you’ve hit the jackpot! We were very fortunate to have Andy photograph our wedding and he has truly exceeded our expectations. Andy is very easy to talk to and took on our photographic requests with enthusiasm. Andy was great at mixing in with family and friends putting them so much at ease I’m sure they forgot he was there, great for capturing those all important candid shots.
The finished products are nothing short of stunning, to have both the prints and the digital files can be rare in photographic circles, yet Andy provides both in a timely manner. Our photos have been seen and praised worldwide with many saying it’s the best photography they have ever seen! Thanks Andy for everything, you are a true talent and we will treasure our photos for all the years to come.
- Phillipa & Justin (28 Apr 12)
great wedding great photos thank you- barbara boyce (24 Apr 12)
Wow, can't believe you can do this in just a few hours! Look forward to the books. Just so cool- Clayton and Sapphire (31 Mar 12)
Great work and superb photography. I am sure that Andy has greatly enhanced Mark and Jan's wedding memories.- Colleen Daysh (27 Mar 12)
Andy is entirely professional and well organised. He is full of energy with passionate enthusiasm. A real character he bought out peoples personalities even the shy ones! His experience shows in how he can set a scene and create lasting memories. Andy kept the wedding day flowing with his efficient manner, he didn't take us away from our guests for long at all. He had a good rapport with our guests. We are so grateful we met him photograghing our friends wedding, we booked trents vineyard around Andy's availability! With the photos back we are most pleased with the results. We fully recommend Andy Currie as a wedding photographer.- Sarah and Dax (2nd March 12) (19 Mar 12)
Andy delivers quality iconic pictures which we think you’ll be hard pushed to find anywhere else. He’s exactly the right photographer personality on day. He’s extremely organised and is amazingly helpful on the lead up till the wedding day. When you speak to him about photography you quickly understand the man knows his stuff. Andy is a genius when it comes to location shoots. He’s very imaginative and comes up with some fantastic ideas when left to his own devices. He’s given us the ability to look back at our wedding and truly see it as special as it was. He’s honesty worth every penny.- Ross & Kelly (14 Mar 12)
Lovely photos of the whole Wedding Party
Special mention that my Sister Glenys looked beautiful and so did her Son the Groom a Handsome Lad Lara is a very lucky girl- Denise Carter (13 Mar 12)
The minute I met Andy I knew he had the right personality to put my precious groom -who was relucatnt to be in the spotlight - at ease. And he did so brilliantly. He captured the fun, warmth, laughter and sheer joy of our wedding perfectly. The photos are absolutely stunning. - Shirley (6 Mar 12)
Wow!!!!! Absolutely stunning slideshow. Professional, friendly and very clever photographer!!!- Sue Dykes (4 Mar 12)
I found Andy very good to work with at Jan and Marks wedding and would thoroughly recommend him to photograph your wedding too.- Stuart Wood,"The Bagpiper" (4 Mar 12)
Mark and I got married Nov 2012 and Andy took our photographs. We gave him a blank canvas, my only request was for him to make me look good lol.
I can not recommend Andy high enough, he was so easy to work with. He made the photograph process of our wedding stress free. I love the results and think he captured our amazing day perfectly! - Dee and Mark - Mr & Mrs H (29 Feb 12)
Andy's photos and slide show are mind blowing! His speed and efficiency is truly amazing. The consumate professional.- Pete (Brother of the Bride) (22 Feb 12)
Andy, you made our day that much more amazing... from the moment you arrived! Thank you for capturing so many magical moments and for being so supportive and encouraging on the day. Your humour, passion and energy our a huge testament to you and we are absolutely thrilled with the photos. We cannot thank you enough!! Hayden and Emma x- Emma Richards (22 Jan 12)
Oh my goodness what an amazing slideshow for such a beautiful occasion, bought tears to our eyes. Emma looked sensational, as did therese. Finnian looked so grown up! Many congratulations and best wishes for the newlyweds future together. Karen, Steve, Molly and William x - the adams family in norway ! (22 Jan 12)
Andy's professionalism and his ability to nail important moments on camera really stood out. He was outstanding.- mary, aunt of bride. (21 Jan 12)
Thank-you so much for the amazing job you did with our photo's we are both so stoked with them and couldnt be more grateful.
Thank-you for your prompt and efficent service on the day and the delivery of photos. A class service!!! I will definatly recommend your service to any friends and family.- Lisa & Keegan (20 Jan 12)
Thanks so much for everything - I've had people tell me that they are the best wedding photos they have ever seen - I would like to think that was due to the good looking nature of the bride and groom but I think they are meaning your work is amazing. I never thought I would love my wedding photos this much but they are so good I can't wait to get some up around the house.- Rebecca & Kyle (19 Jan 12)
Andy Andy Andy, what a swell job you did on our special day! Thank you soooooo much for capturing these precious moments... Anyone who has seen the photos comment on how amazing they are and we couldnt be happier. Choosing you was one of the best decisions we made! Thank you :-) - Debs and Matt (12 Jan 12)
Theses photos were nothing short of magic. Absolutely fantastic- Raewyn Whitelaw (18 Dec 11)
We highly recommend Andy and definitely agree with the claim of "a very nice bloke taking your pictures!" We had lots of good comments about him from our guests and lots of great photos from him. The slide show was nice for people who couldn't make it to the wedding to be able to see pictures of it the same day. We're very pleased with our bride's book too!- Graham & Amanda (19 Sep 11)
Thanks so much for the amazing job you did of our photos! They are just fantastic and we love them ! We have had so many comments on how perfect the pictures are and what a great photographer you are. Thank you so much- Bek & James (14 Sep 11)
5 weeks ago Andy was the photographer for my daughters wedding. While Jess was organised Andy was even more so.
Professional, approachable, artistic and friendly. Great quality images were produced and available in no time. Even the snowfall did not cause delay.
I have no hesitation in recommending Andy.- Keith Olney (28 Aug 11)
It?s rellay great that people are sharing this information.- Kairi (15 Jul 11)
We thought Andy was great, making everyone feel so at ease we forgot he was there, - Rosemary Hewson (25 Jun 11)
Hi Andy, this is belated but heart felt, thank you so very much for our absolutely stunning bride book. We were blown away with the quality and love showing it off to our friends and family. You really were such a pleasure to work with - nothing was a problem and your fast service was fantastic. I have no hesitation in recommending you as a quality affordable photographer. Thanks again Andy, Regards Rach & Kev.- Rachael & Kevin Hurrell (7 Jun 11)
If you want to be still enjoying your wedding photographs in 50 years time and saying what a great wedding photographer we chose - Andy Currie is the photographer to book. He is able to capture the moments throughout the day, without intruding in proceedings and without any of the photographs looking posed or contrived. Because of the quantity of quality photographs he produces the only problem you have is in deciding which photographs to leave out of the album.
- - David and Joan Cartwright (Brides parents) (17 May 11)
We have just got back from Hanmer and are looking at the photos now- they are amazing. We love your work and we are so glad to have you as our photographer. Thank you so much for the extra hours you put in. If we can contribute to your testimonials we would be more then happy to say a personal thanks and recommendation.- Renee & Blair (16 May 11)
I would just like to say an enormous thank you. The photos you shot for Jason and Gemma's wedding were fantastic. I have had so many beautiful comments on them, and I now recommend you to whomever I talk to. What we appreciated was the mix of photographs, you truely did capture the day, plus you are a nice guy to deal with. So many many thank you's from Jason's mum and Dad,
- Lyndsay and Peter King (16 May 11)
Amazing photos! Making everybody look as good as you did can only be done by a brilliant photographer such as yourself. Everybody commented on how beautiful the photos from the slideshow, I'd say they haven't seen anything yet, I have a box full of even more lovely photos and memories! You captured the day and what it meant to us. Thank you so much Andy. It has been fun working with you and our guests also appreciated how friendly you were.- Fen and Martin (7 May 11)
I was not at this wedding but my friend Kat was a bridesmaid. These are defintely some of the best wedding pics I have seen. I am already married otherwise I would definitely use you. These are so fantastic. Many captured moments.
Well doen- Lia Brown (3 May 11)
I had the car.
Your style with your shots was interesting to see. I have seen many photographers and some of your ideas are a pleasure to see.
I thoroughly enjoyed being involved with you ,Nicola and Richard
on their big day.- Bruce McCormick. (2 May 11)
Thanks Andy for a very relaxing day!! Felt very comfortable, you were very professional yet lots of fun!! Couldn't wait to see the slide show, was a great way to top off a fantastic day! Very impressive- Katherine Hanna (30 Apr 11)
Andy, wow you have blown us away with the amazing photos that you captured on our wedding day. From the day we first met you we knew that you were the perfect photographer for us, your sense of humour and easygoing manner put our entire wedding party and all our guests at ease. Everyone loved you and the amazing shots you have produced!! Our Brides book is truely something special.
We will be recommending you to all our friends and family. Thanks again you and your work is turely amazing!! - Kimberley & Tom Enosa (18 Apr 11)
Andy, thank you so much for capturing our special day in such an amazing way! You were so easy to work with, and all our guests commented on how friendly and unobtrusive you were. We have over 800 spectacular images that tell the story of our day which will keep it alive forever.
We're looking forward to doing a Trash the Dress shoot for our one year anniversary, and when the time comes, family photos too.
We would 100% recommend your work to anyone, and look forward to working with you again in the future.
Once again, we can't thank you enough!- Jon and Tracey Dainty (4th Feb 2011) (8 Apr 11)
Beautiful bride...beautiful photography Andy!- lisa humphrey (3 Apr 11)
Andy - how can we thank you enough? You listened to the style we wanted and surpassed our expectations by giving us that and more. The variety of photos is immense and we just love those special moments you managed to capture for us.
Thank you for being such a calming influence and for making us laugh. An even bigger thank you for having a slide show up and running the night of the wedding. It was so amazing to see those pictures the next day and relive all of those special moments.
Andy, we could not have chosen a better photographer. What value for money you are..worth every penny! Already we have several friends that have booked you since and we will not hesitate to recommend more in the future.
Jacinda and Ray Thomsen- Jacinda and Ray Thomsen (14 Mar 11)
The best photos Andy, I couldn't have imagined how fantastic they have turned out! You have far exceeded our expectations, it was so fun having you as our photographer. I have watched the slideshow at least a dozen times today and I can't wait to get all the photos to have a look. I don't even have a favourite - I love them all!!!!
Thank you so so much, Jess.- Jessica Earnshaw (6 Mar 11)
Attended Jono and Jess's wedding. Absolutely Amazing, Andy is fun, creative and takes amazing pictures. Just look at the slide shows. :) Keep up the great work Andy- Mark Baines (6 Mar 11)
Andy was a fantastic, everyone said how they never knew he was at the wedding.
We didn't know what we wanted with our wedding photos and Andy was able to use his talent to produce some stunning photographs.
We would reccomend Andy to anyone.
Thank you once again Andy.- Emily and William (6 Mar 11)
Andy took some beautiful and amazing shots at my cousin's Jess and Jono's wedding. Both formal and casual. Very unobtrusive and I highly recommend him. - Donna Burt (6 Mar 11)
I love it! Made me cry.
I'm happy for you Fen. Best WIshes!- Cecilia Querimit (28 Feb 11)
Andy your Humour and 'quirky shots' are awesome. Your aproach to taking the photos gave an added balance of fun to the whole event.
Thanks for your attention to detail.
Emma's Mum- Rose Porter (26 Feb 11)
Thank you Andy for capturing this terric wedding in such a delightful slideshow. I am an old teacher of Tyler's high school days and am thrilled to follow his successes and chosen home in New Zealand across the globe from his former home here on Pender!!
Beautiful job! Great occasion...WOW! Wonderful capture of precious memories!- Colleen Fitz-Gerald (22 Feb 11)
I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the gentle manner you had with the Carissa's family and friends (especially the young ones) on her wedding day. I could hear you in the next room coaxing them into laughter while I was getting on with the makeup.
It was lovely to work with you.
Julie-Anne Whitson. - HMS hair-makeup-styling (19 Feb 11)
All we can say is.....WOW! Andy was a consumate professional with a cracking sense of humour. The pictures speak for themselves. - Laura & Mark (Best-Man) 12.02.11 (19 Feb 11)
Thanks for the memories Andy. When Judy and I review the photos we have to keep a box of kleenex handy. You created a wonderful keepsake for Halie and Tyler.- Brent Marsden (5 Feb 11)
Andy - just wanted to say how much I enjoyed working with your for Halie and Tyler's wedding yesterday. I love the photos -there has to be a winner there!! You made everyone feel at ease - hence the lovely shots:)
Marriage Celebrant- Julie Lassen (29 Jan 11)
Thanks Andy for helping to make our day so special. You kept us on track without rushing us, put everyone at ease and really contributed to the relaxed feel of the day. Just how we wanted it.
You were very unobtrusive on the day both at the house beforehand and at the venue. We also received lots of positive comments about you from the guests. I'm only sorry we forgot to pack a beer for you when we headed off up the port hills!- Caroline & Ross (18 Jan 11)
Well what a day, a very unorganised and casual wedding. Andy kept us in line and organised us and gave us the most amazing wedding photos, not only of the wedding party but also of our guests enjoying themselves. Was a pleasure working with you Andy on the wedding day itself and afterwards organising our Wedding albums. Not time driven and went that extra mile. Thanks a million. Lisa and Steve- Lisa (4 Jan 11)
We were blown away by Andy's talent during our first meeting with him and booked him straight away.
Once we had booked him, and closer to our wedding date, Andy helped us plan out the timetable of the day, which was much appreciated since Ian and I had an overly relaxed approach to our wedding.
On the day Andy proved to be professional, friendly and extremely kind (even helping carry me up a flight of stairs). All of our guests have commented on how lovely he was and eager he was to take photos when asked.
The photos we have of our day are amazing, Andy managed to capture those candid shots (which made the day) as well as creating formal photos that could be published in a fashion magazine. Needless to say we cannot wait to receive our bridal book.
Nothing we asked for was a problem and as a result Andy helped make our day one of the most stress-free and happiest day of our lives. His communication after our wedding has been brilliant, and we would definately recommend him to anyone looking for value for money.
Thanks Andy for everything and we wish you all the best for the future.
- Ian and Leanne (22 Dec 10)
A fabulous day captured with an amazing photographer.
We got the photos we asked for and the little extras we couldn't think of.
The day perfect with perfect photos as memories. Thanks Andy :)- Phill and Leigh 13 Nov 2010 (7 Dec 10)
hey Andy - gorgeous shots!! So nice to see what happens after we are done!- Selina Nunn (27 Oct 10)
WOW - what a day and what a fabulous collection of memories you have collected for us. The pics are amazing and what's more, you made us all feel so relaxed that they really represent the day as it was. You have been fantastic to deal with and even though you are busy, expect it to get busier!! Our friends are raving about the
shots- Jacqui & Brad (11 Oct 10)
Thank you so much for capturinng so many beautiful images of our wedding day in February this year. The album is amazing and have had so many compliments.
We had so much fun on the day and the photographs clearly reflect that. You were so easy to get along with and that really helped settle the nerves.Thank you again Andy. We are so happy we chose you as our photographer.- Claire and Dave (7 Oct 10)
We just wanted to say a huge thank you to Andy for being part of our special day. Our photos are beautiful and capture the 'Winter Wonderland Wedding' we both had dreamed off. We would reccommend Andy to anyone :)- Jessica & Carl (9th July 2010) (5 Aug 10)
I just wanted to say thank you very, very much for the wonderful job you did on Dana and my wedding photos. They are absolutely brilliant. We have had so many people comment on how great the photos are and the slideshow has made many people cry! (Including people who don’t even know us). I had no idea how many photos you had taken and it was so great to see things that I hadn’t noticed on the day.- Carla & Dana (22 Jul 10)
We were really impressed with the photo's that Andy did for friends of ours, so he was first choice for our wedding. We left Andy to organise the locations for the photo's and couldn't have been more pleased with the results. The photo session ran smoothly and quickly, and was relaxed. We loved how we never had to "pose". Everyone who has seen our photo's has commented on how amazing they are. We wouldn't hesitate to recommend Andy to anyone. Thanks so much.- Scott and Carolyn (13 Jul 10)
Thank you very much for your wonderful photography on our wedding day. We really enjoyed your contribution to our big day; you set everyone at ease, and put in a huge effort to produce the best photos we have ever had taken. We loved the slideshow and so did our family and friends.- Julia and Matt (21 Jun 10)